Educational Attainment for Fire and EMS Professionals: Episode 193

In this episode we talk to Lt. Paul Hasenmeier about educational attainment and degree completion for fire and EMS professionals. Paul shares his efforts to accomplish completion of an associates degree, bachelors degree, and masters of public administration while working full-time, being a husband and father, as well as an educator, author, presenter, and triathlete. We also explore the dilemma of leaders fearing or being suspicious of subordinates with more education.

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Bill – Constantly reading to perfect your craft through newspapers, journals, trade publications. Being well read is a valuable tool.

Rob – Instructional Methods in Health Professions Education from Coursera

Paul – Lincoln On Leadership: Executive Strategies for Tough Times (Amazon link), Flawless Execution: Use the Techniques and Systems of America’s Fighter Pilots to Perform at your

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Peak and Win Battles in the Business World (Amazon link), First In, Last Out: Leadership Lessons from the New York Fire Department ().

Greg – Why do we send so many people to a cardiac arrest?